Tuesday, November 24, 2015

The case for a God who saves people who don't call themselves Christians

I tried living for myself, that is to say, without God once. It didn't really work out for me

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So Paul, standing before the council, addressed them as follows: “Men of Athens, I notice that you are very religious in every way, for as I was walking along I saw your many shrines. And one of your altars had this inscription on it: ‘To an Unknown God.’ This God, whom you worship without knowing, is the one I’m telling you about.

- Acts 17:22-23

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- Do you believe that the God of the old testament, that is to say of Israel that is to say of Abraham and of the Jewish people is the same God that the Christians worship?

- Yes

- Do you believe that the God that the Koran describes is the same as the God of the bible?

- I'm not too sure

- Do you believe that the God that Westboro baptist church worships is the God that we worship?

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What then? Are we better than they? Not at all; for we have already charged that both Jews and Greeks are all under sin. 
Romans 3:9

For the Scriptures tell us, “Abraham believed God, and God counted him as righteous because of his faith.”When people work, their wages are not a gift, but something they have earned. But people are counted as righteous, not because of their work, but because of their faith in God who forgives sinners. 
Romans 4:3-5
For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one. 
Romans 3:28 - 30

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- do you think, barring those who are blatantly serving and worshipping themselves and their own desires, and those who have given themselves up to what they know is evil, that we are all attempting to serve the same God in our own flawed and uniquely misguided ways?

- i think it's possible... but at the same time, I think some of us are doing a better job of it than others

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"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. "You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. So then, you will know them by their fruits." 
Matthew 7:15-20

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So which of us do you think is Cain 
and which of us is Abel?



Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. - John 14:6

The way to worship - to obey God... this is what it looks like. No one comes to the Father except through following Jesus Christ's example -- Jesus doesn't say, no one comes to the father except through saying my name. If Jesus lives in us, through our lives, then perhaps others are acquainted with him through us? Does that make their journey any less authentic than if they had met him through scripture? Or at a church event?

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